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>> this is "bbc world news america," reporting from washington, i'm janeo brian. unity in the face of tragedy. the people of norway gather to remember those killed in friday's attacks as the man accused of carrying them out tells the court he was not acting alone. breaking her silence, the maid accusing dominque strauss-kahn of sexual assault speaks out to tell her side of the story, and tying the knot in new york, as gay couples line up to get married. some merchants are set to cash in. welcome to our viewers on pbs in america and also around the globe. tonight, the country of norway remains in mourning as roughly 100,000 people gathered to
remember those killed in friday's attacks. the show of solidarity comes on the same day that anders behring breivik, the man accused of carrying out the deadly assault, appeared in court claiming he had not acted alone and that there were two more cells in his organization. our europe editor starts our coverage. >> this was the moment when the man accused of norway's mass killings headed to court. anders behring breivik, wearing a dark red top, sat next to police officers. outside the courthouse, crowds had gathered. most of them fiercely opposed to breivik being able to use his court appearance as a platform for his views, as he himself wanted. >> don't give him attention, have the doors closed. >> this should not be an open hearing. this is what he wants and i don't see why we should let him have his way. >> breivik had actually asked police if he could wear a black uniform to court but they said
no. lines formed to go inside the courtroom. but the police opposed an open hearing, fearful breivik might use to -- it to send signals to others and the judge agreed. in court, breivik was told he would be held in solitary confinement for four weeks without visitors, letters or newspapers and his next court appearance would be in eight weeks. later, the judge revealed what breivik himself told the court. he said the goal of his attack was to send a strong signal to the people and he wanted to save western europe from a mumbai -- muslim takeover and wanted to prevent future recruitment to the labour party which he said betrayed the country. as to anders behring breivik's mood in the court, this is what his lawyer told me. >> how was your client in court today? >> calm. >> as he was driven away from
the court, breivik left the police with a new line of investigation. he claimed to belong to an organization with two more active cells, but provided no further details. police said they still cannot rule out others being involved. it has emerged that breivik's name was in the intelligence service's filed. >> he was on a list of right- wing extremists but we have enormous information in our archives. >> they have records of him buying chemicals in poland but they hadn't followed the information up. close to the time of the court appearance, norway held a minute's silence. across the country, people stood quietly. out on the lake, they are still searching for the missing, although they have revised down the number of those killed to
76. in the chaos, some of the bodies were counted twice. but the faces of some of the missing still peer out from norway's papers, all of them young people attending a summer camp. people on the streets today spoke of innocence lost, of a shadow falling across the country. >> we are in deep grief. they are still shocked but we also see a norway which is very unified and where people are standing together. >> tonight, rescue workers walked through the capital. people lined to the streets and applauded them. and even as oslo remembered these days of tragedy, the police said that the man who has admitted the killings was reported to be unaffected by events, clinging to his distorted belief that he needed to shake up his country. >> a few moments ago, i spoke to gaffe nin -- gavin in oslo.
what's been the atmosphere at the rally and what would you say is the prevailing mood of people there tonight? >> i think the mood is very somber. it is interesting that this is three days after these killings. the streets tonight were full of people, many of them holding roses, and here it's very late in the evening in norway, there are still thousands on the streets holding vigil. i think this is a traumatized society that has been profoundly affected by what has happened. in the past, it has not had these kinds of mass killings or indeed seen violence. this is the worst violence this country has experienced since world war ii and i think that is why so many people have come out to make a statement about racism, but also to show that they're remembering those who lost their lives and are victims. >> it's early days yet, but what sort of questions will the investigation being focusing on?
>> well, now is not the moment for the tough questions to be asked and i don't think the mood is right for that and the prime minister today was saying, i think people are still too preoccupied with finding those who are still missing and dealing with the immediate aftermath of this tragedy, but further down the road there will be questions about the police operation, why did it take so long to get to that island, 90 minutes after the gunman had started shooting, giving him the opportunity to kill a lot of people. and then beyond that perhaps a deeper and more disturbing question, where did this hatred that inspired this mass killer, where did it spring from, in what is by any means a prosperous and stable society and are there others who feel equally alienated. >> gavin, thank you very much for joining us. the father of anders behring breivik has spoken for the first time since the attacks, saying
it would have been better if his son had killed himself. it comes as, one by one, breivik's victims are being named. the first was a student from bergen, tora ikeland who was 21. our correspondent reports from bergen. >> in the shadow of mountains and rain cloud, it seems most of the people are bergen have come out to share intense emotions, deep loss, but also defiance. norway's second city is mourning several of its children. the only one so far officially named and confirmed dead was 21 years old. tora ikeland was a high flyer, youth leader in this region of norway's governing labour party. for one of his former school teachers, his death is hard to bear. >> if he died anyway close to the way he lived, he wouldn't be the first to run unless, you
know, i think he would have been one of those trying to make a difference. >> it's only later the teacher tells me he expects more bad news to come. >> i got two of my pupils that are still missing. >> at the head of tonight's procession, government ministers who have flown up from oslo, bergen's labor leader, grieving for tora and also for the loss of so many of her party's next generation. >> we will live and we will be strong again, but right now it feels like a huge loss to miss so many young people and so many young leaders. >> norwegians tell me that processions like this have a special significance for them, particularly in winter, fighting against the almost continuous darkness. now they feel as if they're fighting a different sort of
darkness but one in which they say they will definitely prevail. but norway's agony is far from over. most victims have still not been named. more dark days lie ahead. james robins, bbc news, bergen. >> massive and urgent action, what the head of the united nations food agency says is needed to address the drought in the horn of africa. speaking to an emergency meeting in rome, he addressed the crisis now facing parts of kenya, ethiopia and somalia. the situation in somalia is complicated even further by conflict between pro-government forces and the islamist insurgent al-shabab. our correspondent has been to the government-controlled area where foreign aid is starting to arrive. >> clouds over somalia but no rain. we're heading to a region close to the famine zone.
gunmen on the ground, but these men work for somalia's government backed by the west. they control a small pocket of territory here. it's a magnet for families desperate for food and safety. first we see makeshift camps in the wilderness, then the latest arrivals. this family arrived a few hours ago, escaping from a town controlled by the islamist militant group al-shabab, they're exhausted but count themselves lucky. >> al-shabab -- they're killing people at home, al-shabab are preventing aid from reaching our area. that's why we had to flee. those left behind will die. the battle now is to stop more people fleeing their homes by
getting aid directly into the heart of somalia's famine zone. that's not impossible but because of al-shabab, it's slow, complicated and very dangerous. it's also imperative, with the famine set to spread and the refugee camps overloaded, western aid officials are exploring every option. >> this idea that shabab areas are no-go zones, it's not true. categorically not true. we have evidence of organizations that never left somalia that they are able to expand their operations and i am confident that as long as we rely on experienced organizations and on the local chiefs where local chiefs are determined to help their communities, we can help many people inside somalia. >> so a race has begun here to reach those unable to escape the famine and time is on no one's
side. andrew harding, bbc news, somalia. >> in other news, now, the vatican has recalled its ambassador to ireland, following severe criticism by the irish parliament in the church's role of covering up child sex abuse. a report accused church authorities of concealing the sexual abuse of children by priests as early as 2009. britain has joined france in suggesting that colonel qaddafi should remain in libya so long as he steps down from power. william hague said that although britain's preference was for colonel qaddafi to go into exile, it was up to the libyan people to decide. now, to the u.s. debt talks which are locked in a bitter standoff. with just a little more than a week to go until the august 2 deadline when the u.s. must lift
the debt ceiling or risk default, both sides are digging in for a fight. today, rival proposals were rolled out and tonight, the president will address the nation in a televised address. but among those who think the tea party republicans should hold their ground is freshman representative joe walsh and he joins me now from capitol hill. thank you very much for joining us. are you really prepared to risk the country going into default over this? >> no. no one wants to risk default. nobody up here in this town wants to do that, jane. we just want to make sure we get this right, that we get the solution right. we met with a couple of the credit agencies last week and they were pretty clear, they told us even if we raised the debt ceiling and we don't enact real spending reform, our credit rating will probably still go down. we want to try to avoid that. >> but if you're not willing to compromise or negotiate, how are
you going to reach an agreement? >> well, your house republicans passed a plan last week called cut, cap and balance, that i would argue is a compromise. a number of us freshmen ran on the platform that we would never raise the debt ceiling. we voted last week to raise the debt ceiling and all we wanted in exchange for that was real spending cuts, real spending caps, and a balanced budget amendment to our constitution. and all -- this is something that the american people support and we're asking the senate to take it on and debate it. it's the only plan out there right now, jane, that's literally passed out of congress. >> there's certainly no shortage of plans but isn't this now less about economics and more about politics? >> no, i think it's all about -- it's all about economics. it's about the fact that this country is falling off a financial cliff. we are bankrupting future generations. and for any of us to add another dollar on to the backs of our
kids and grandkids, we're going to make sure we never get to this point again and our president needs to understand that. >> so, do you think that you can reach a deal even at this late hour? >> look, i think the sides are going to come together and arrive at a solution. i'm not into this whole notion of washington crafting a deal. this country needs a solution. and we know where the american people are. they want us to cut spending and they want spending reform so it's going to have to be a heck of a lot closer to what the republicans passed last week. >> but the american people are also telling you that the republicans are intangent over the issue of taxes and you need to budge. >> it probably looks like a big boxing match to them. i don't know. maybe they're sick of both parties. all i can tell you is the republicans are the only folks up here that are trying to act serious and put forth something serious. this president hasn't been
serious. he created this mess to a large degree and now he's asking for help in the 11th hour. we will help him, but he's got to work with us to change the way this town does business. >> congressman joe walsh, thank you for joining us. we will be watching closely. >> wonderful to be with you. >> you're watching "bbc world news america." and still to come on tonight's program, love and marriage takes centerstage in new york where gay couples are legal to wed. but it's the economy which could also turn out to be a big winner. >> the family of british senior amy winehouse have thanked her fans for the support they've received since her death on saturday. >> tributes, quiet reflection. eileen had met amy winehouse many times out and about in
camden. >> 27 years old. so sad. >> a multi-million selling artist, winner of five grammy awards, she had had lunch with her mum, janice, on thursday. today, janice and amy's dad, mitch, paid a visit to what has become a shrine to their daughter. >> i can't tell you what this means to us. it really is making this a lot easier for us. amy was about one thing and that was love. >> among the group, her manager, her boyfriend, those who lived with the ups and downs, the successes and addictions, but this was unexpected. there had been no signs of crisis. and she was seen by a doctor on friday night, the last person to speak to her was her security guard in the early hours of saturday morning. on saturday afternoon, they were
unable to wake her. today's post mortem was inconclusive, more tests were needed. but her friend, russell brand, said he long feared the worse and his wife explained. >> when you know somebody that is dealing with addiction, you dread that phone call. >> it's understood the funeral will take place tomorrow. this was supposed to have been the summer of amy winehouse's comeback tour but instead her backup singers were today paying their respects. >> telling her story, that's exactly what nafissatou diallo is doing after two months of silence. she's the hotel housekeeper accusing dominque strauss-kahn of sexually assaulting her in a new york hotel. according to the former i.m.f.
leader's lawyers, the interviews amount to an unseemly circus. this is how she described the attack. >> i'm so sorry, i turned my head. he come to me and grab my breast, no, you don't have to be sorry. i said, no, sir, i don't want to lose my job. stop, stop this, stop this. but he keep pushing me, pushing me, pushing me to the hallway. back to the hallway, keep pushing me. i was so scared. >> nafissatou diallo also spoke to "newsweek" magazine in an exclusive interview with paris dickie. >> you are one of the few people who have met mrs. diallo. how did she come across to you? was she plausible? >> yes, basically, she seems to be telling a plausible story.
partly because we don't have request other story. dominque strauss-kahn has never said at all what happened in that room and his left us to speculate. to the extent that we have an account of what happened, it is nafissatou diallo's account and once you hear the whole thing from her, it starts to make sense that maybe it doesn't make if you are looking at it from afar. >> prosecutors still haven't decided whether or not they'll pursue the case against dominque strauss-kahn. what impact do you think her story and going public at this stage will have on that decision, if any? >> i'm not sure it's going to have much impact on their decision at the end of the day whether to go ahead with the prosecution, whether to take this to trial. i think it's highly unlikely they will take this to trial on the criminal charges because in order to do that in the united states, you have to prove the crime beyond a reasonable doubt and there are several things about nafissatou diallo's past and things she's done in the past that can be introduced into
the minds of the jury so that there will always be reasonable doubt about how true her account is. that doesn't mean it's not true. it just means that there's a big difference between the probable cause necessary to arrest dominque strauss-kahn and proving a crime beyond a reasonable doubt and i don't think the prosecutors think they can do that. i don't think the criminal case will happen. a civil case will certainly happen. >> now, as you say, your interview with her has brought up these questions of her past, which could backfire against her. i mean, why do you think she decided to go public now? >> well, i think, you know, from have been issues brought up by the prosecutors themselves about her past and insinuations made by the defense team and by other people who think they're supporting dominque strauss-kahn that have, for instance, accused this woman of being a prostitute or part-time prostitute.
that's definitely something the defense team would like to get out there. and there's no proof of it. maybe they will find some proof. maybe somebody will present some evidence that makes that case, but to this moment, we haven't seen any reason to believe that. and in fact she is suing the "new york post," a murdoch paper, for having published stories that claim she's a prostitute. so she wanted to come out and say, look, most of the world, maybe not in the united states, but most of the world knows my name. most people know who i am, my daughter, 15 years old, is reading stories in the "new york post" that say i'm a prostitute. i think it's time to come out and defend myself in public and i think that's exactly why she did it. >> christopher dickie, thank you very much for joining us. now to the up in nuptials whiche been taking place across new york. yesterday, the state became the largest in the u.s. to recognize gay marriage and officials are hoping that with all of those weddings, the economy will be given a much-needed boost.
the bbc's laura travallian went to meet happy couples. >> last minute caches on the big day for hundreds of same-sex couples queuing up in the sweltering heat, this was a moment to treasure. in a new york first, alese and her fiancee planned a double wedding with alese's brother and his partner. >> a month ago on the couch because i don't think you realize how much you want something until you get that close to it. >> this journey for the four of us collectively has been an amazing process. >> an amazing journey. >> with celebrations come spending. it's been estimated that same-sex weddings will boost new york's economy by nearly $300 million over the next three years. a handful of states that have
legalized same-sex marriage, new york is the one that will draw in the crowds. it's a destination in its own right. >> wedding planners specializing in gay nuptials are taking bookings. >> my business has been based in boston and new england where the cost of a wedding is almost half of what it is here in new york so not only can i charge pretty much double of my current rates, but also the sheer volume of weddings is going to be much more significant. >> mark has cupcakes at the ready. his customers in this predominantly gay area of manhattan are now planning their weddings. >> roughly 60% of our business is wedding cakes and we're anticipating probably a 30% boost in revenue this year from gay wedding cakes alone. >> i pronounce you a married couple. >> same-sex weddings will generate cash for new york. but for the couples who just got married here, financial equality is some way off. the federal government doesn't
recognize these weddings. >> if one of us should, you know, pass away before the other, when it eventually happens, one cannot get the other's social security and, you know, with regard to, you know, finances and taxes and so on and so forth, we're not treated the same as a heterosexual couple. >> looking at the picture at the national level, new york is welcoming same-sex couples with open arms and after years of waiting, newlyweds are ready to throw the ultimate party. >> that brings us to the end of today's program. i'm jane o'brian and for all of us at "bbc world news america," thank you for watching. see you back here tomorrow.
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